ADL close to securing more international flights

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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Matthew P » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:29 pm

Brad C wrote:
Matthew P wrote:Pretty sure I heard 77W - will be awesome to have a flight into BKK as well!

All we need is something into LAX (please rumors be true haha!)

ADL-LAX rumours??
Surely not - which carrier?



Well I swear I read about it in this thread but can't find it. Maybe I'm going crazy haha!!!
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Stefan J Perkas » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:48 pm

Stefan J Perkas wrote:Afternoon all,

Its not an additional flight, it is more of a reshuffle.

Effective 5th May 2012, QF81/82 will now orginate and end in Sydney, QF 82's days of operation will change and QF81 days of operations will remain unchanged, however it will no longer sit on the goround all day on Thursday and Saturday. The reason for this change is becuase of under the current schedule the aircraft which goes up on QF81 continues onto Mumbai and then goes back to Singapore and comes back to Adelaide as QF82. However due to Qantas ceasing Mumbai operations from May, they have to change QF82/82.

New schedules effective May 5th 2012...

QF81 Dep SYD 1200 Arr ADL 1350 Dep ADL 1500 Arr SIN 2100 (will depart Adelaide
Tuesday's Thursday's and Saturday's)


QF82 Dep SIN 2225 Arr ADL 0640+1 Dep ADL 0750 Arr SYD 1015 (Will arrive in to
Adelaide Wednesday's, Friday's and Sunday's)


Afternoon all,

QF81 on Tuesday's only will be operated by an A330-200 (VH-EBG, H, I and L) from May 8 2012. This will operate until October.

All other flights will be operated by A330-300's.
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Brett M » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:30 am

From December 2012 Singapore Airlines will be flying twice daily from Adelaide to Singapore direct.

At this stage it is unknown what aircraft type(s) will be used.
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby paul.h » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:56 pm

From AdelaideNOW,

BUDGET Malaysian carrier AirAsia X wants to schedule flights between Adelaide and its base in Kuala Lumpur, from where it connects with Asian cities.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/travel/ch ... 6318995799
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Stefan J Perkas » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:27 pm

paul.h wrote:From AdelaideNOW,

BUDGET Malaysian carrier AirAsia X wants to schedule flights between Adelaide and its base in Kuala Lumpur, from where it connects with Asian cities.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/travel/ch ... 6318995799


They will start Adelaide once they receive more A330's later on in the year. So hopefully this time next year they will start.
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Stefan J Perkas » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:41 pm

Brett M wrote:From December 2012 Singapore Airlines will be flying twice daily from Adelaide to Singapore direct.

At this stage it is unknown what aircraft type(s) will be used.


It will be intersting to see if this is a permant change or a just a increase of 4 flights for the December 2012- January 2013 period (like they did with the B777's).
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Louis D » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:35 pm

I have been hearing informed rumours of an Emirates DXB-DPS-ADL service from offshore boards for a month now and this is the first offical comment I've seen from Emirates that gives both substance to these rumors and confirms that Adelaide is on now on the short list.

Hopefully not long to wait.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 6393522768
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby stevenw » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:26 am

DPS, hey? Interesting. I guess there's enough SIN-ADL and KUL-ADL, I guess the logical options were BKK or DPS...
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Brett M » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:57 am

A good article from Ben Sandilands of Crikey's Plane Talking blog. The article only adds weight to possibility that Emirates will soon announce flights into Adelaide.

Qantas comes under network pressure from Emirates

It looks increasingly likely that after not getting any sense out of Qantas about a closer relationship Emirates is going to keep on doing what it does best, serving markets the Australian carrier neglects, by making its long expected move on Adelaide.

Emirates’ plans are similar to those of Virgin Australia alliance partner Etihad. Serve underserved markets with more direct flights to more combinations of connections.

The Dubai based carrier says it is looking at serving Adelaide with daily 777s, the old technology chronically inadequate jet that the geniuses at Qantas learnedly excluded from their fleet planning.

The reality is that Qantas can’t serve Adelaide with a 787-9, its long overdue Dreamliner model of choice against 777-300ERs without building in a disadvantage in terms of operations in a growing market.

Qantas won’t have any spare Dreamliners for Adelaide international services unless it radically refreshes its attitude to the South Australian capital, which is a city that just never seems to figure in its grand plans, until maybe 2017, by which time growth will have made the smaller plastic airliner even less relevant, and possibly seen Emirates upgrade its capacity on the route to A380s.

This is what Emirates does. Just look at its operational history into cities like Manchester and Hamburg, which would be high up the list of traffic sources likely to find a one stop flight to Adelaide via Dubai highly attractive, and have already gone from filling the 777s critics thought were too big for them and either adding or planning to add A380s to the mix.

This focus by Emirates is on cities that Qantas says it can never serve other than over Sydney and through Heathrow hell because it is at the end of the line and the victim of the same sovereign funded carriers it both slanders and tries to do deals with. These often repeated claims need closer study.

The Qantas approach is self serving because it is constructed to favour a commercial relationship with British Airways which has become totally inappropriate to flying to greater Europe. It finds itself eye-balling more appropriate competing offers that it could have headed off early this century or in the 90s by recognising and actively pursuing alternative air treaty outcomes, as well as taking up rights to fly to Dubai and using them to negotiate an Emirates relationship back when Emirates was less than half its current size and more amenable to doing deals.

Fixing these past errors in 2012 is a major challenge for Qantas. But what Emirates CEO Tim Clark has been reported as saying in recent days makes it clear that the parties haven’t been able to do anything material so far, and his raising Adelaide is as reminder that Emirates has prospered so much in the absence of a Qantas response in this country that it can do anything it likes on its own.

Emirates has also in recent years been informally looking at options in PNG and Fiji. It’s the same global vision that we see being exercised by Etihad, based in Dubai’s neighboring city of Abu Dhabi.

But this week, largely through its own bad management, Qantas has other distractions in the form of possible hostile raids by syndicates attracted to its weak share price and scenarios under which the Qantas group could be broken up.

It could however, be too late. The so called $3 billion in cash that has lured John Singleton into making cheap trash talk about buying Qantas for $1 billion doesn’t mention the very substantial liabilities that are part of the business, or the risk of impaired asset charges, as discussed in a sobering analysis by Adele Ferguson in this article in the Fairfax press this morning.

The long term focus of Qantas managements on blaming geography, the staff, the competitors and everyone but itself for not even trying to be competitive in a cruel world may have rendered the group too unpalatable a target.

And never mind its domestic network gold mine. Dig a little deeper and discover that domestic is under pressure too, and that has nothing to do with sovereign funded competitors, but the down sides of the two branded Jetstar/Qantas strategy and the up sides of the single branded Virgin Australia strategy.
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Louis D » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:26 pm

stevenw wrote:DPS, hey?


That's the plan as it stands, however it remains contingent on EK gaining fifth freedom rights from Indonesia for the DPS-ADL leg, which what EK is currently waiting for.

If approval is not forthcoming, SIN is the rumoured fall back.
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby stevenw » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:06 pm

Louis D wrote:
stevenw wrote:DPS, hey?


That's the plan as it stands, however it remains contingent on EK gaining fifth freedom rights from Indonesia for the DPS-ADL leg, which what EK is currently waiting for.

If approval is not forthcoming, SIN is the rumoured fall back.


Fingers crossed for SIN - more competition between Adelaide and Singapore won't hurt. I was hoping for Bangkok because I'm selfish and it would make my life a lot easier :lol:

I wonder what loads between Adelaide and Denpasar would be like...
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Brett M » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:08 am

Singapore Airlines takes on Emirates in Adelaide

It speaks loudly about the failure of Qantas act competitively on overseas routes that Singapore Airlines has today moved to reassert its lead over Emirates as Australia’s largest foreign flag carrier in confirming its plans for a large expansion of its flights between Adelaide and its Changi Airport hub for connections to the rest of the world.

In a statement, which trails its own leaks to the media by several days, it tabulates its Australian operations as follows.

Singapore Airlines is Australia’s largest foreign carrier and will operate 105 weekly services, as of 2 July, from the following cities:

Adelaide – ten flights weekly operated with Airbus A330 aircraft
Brisbane – three flights daily with Airbus A330 aircraft
Melbourne – three flights daily with Airbus A380/Boeing 777-300ER/Boeing 777-300 aircraft
Perth – three flights daily with Airbus A330/Boeing 777-200/Boeing 777-300 aircraft
Sydney – four flights daily with Airbus A380/Airbus A330/Boeing 777-300 aircraft
Darwin – four flights weekly with Airbus A319/Airbus A320 aircraft, operated by SilkAir, the regional wing of Singapore Airlines

In 2012, Singapore Airlines celebrates 45 years of service to Australia and the fifth anniversary of the first A380 flight, as well as further capacity increases by growing from 95 weekly services to 112 by the end of the year.

This is not about Qantas. It is about Singapore Airport versus Dubai Airport, following the public musing by Emirates about nothing more than the possibility it might put a daily 777 into Adelaide operations.

It remains to be seen whether Singapore Airlines succeeds in intimidating Emirates into staying out of Adelaide. I wouldn’t bet on this proving to be the case.

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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby Stefan J Perkas » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:02 pm

Morning all,

Singapore are set to increase to 12 flights a week for 3 periods during the summer months. The periods are fom 17/12/12-22/12/12, 07/01/13- 12/01/13 & 21/1/13- 03/01/13.

SQ279/278 will remain daily.
SQ277/276 will increase to 5 weekly during the periods above (no Sunday or Thursday flight). Outside these periods it will remain 3 weekly.

More details can be seen in this link... http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/03/sq-adl-w12/
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby markr » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:23 pm

EK have confirmed ADL flights:

Dubai – Adelaide eff 01NOV12 NEW 4 weekly service with 3-class 777-300ER. Daily from 01FEB13
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Re: ADL close to securing more international flights

Postby MichaelC » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:08 pm

Great news, and much to my delight, its not an A330!

CAN'T WAIT!!!!
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